* * * * * * * * * * ______ ______ ____________ _________ / \ | \ __/ \ __/ \__ _________ | \| \ / |/ _ \ _________ / | // _____ || / \_/ \ |NOTES \ // / \ \\_ \_ | |FROM \ || _____ ___\ \ \_ \_ | |THE \ || / ---/______| \ \_ | |EDGE ___\ || | | /______ __/ \ | |#37 ___/ \ \\ \_ \_ // | | \_____ / ___\ _/ \_ \ \_ _// | ______/ \__ \__/ ___/ \_ \____ | \_/ \__ ___/ \___ _/ \__ \__/ \ \_________/ \_____/ \_ \_____/ \ \_ | \_ | \__ __/ \_____________/ Notes From the Edge #37 April 20th, 1992 * * * * * * * * * * IN THIS ISSUE... ================ Notes From the Editor -- The Infernal Revenue Service Hedges on Yes -- Can the book be found? Rick's Satirical Ways -- A correction to Money The "It Can Happen" Voices -- Mystery Solved Holdsworth and UK -- Premature departure? Rabin as a Leader -- Would you vote for him? GTR on CD -- It's still out there... In Search Of -- Say Yes -- Tormato Bootleg Jon's Lyrical Mystique -- Bad grammar from the Cosmic Cowboy Some More Thoughts -- On various topics Future of Yes -- A last gasp... No Future, No Future! -- In England's Dreaming * * * * * * * * * * NOTES FROM THE EDITOR: ====================== Has everyone paid their taxes yet? I suppose this applies only to US residents... I found out something very important this year; when you make very little money, the IRS can't take very much away... And next week's lesson: "How to live from paycheck to paycheck on $90,000 a year". (How, you ask? Simple! 3 kids, 2 cars, 1 mortgage...) Anyway, onto the fun stuff: I didn't expect such a huge amount of stuff to come in this week, but as I saw the tallies grow, I decided I *had* to make put out an "extra" issue. So here we are. Hope you like the weekliness, though I don't expect it to last. Here's why: with summer vacation coming in a month or so, most of our student readers will lose net access. Which brings up a very important point - if you are losing net access over the summer, let me know so I can remove you from the list. If I get too many bounced digests, I may have to become mercenary in removing people (like removing you on the first bounce). So please let me know. It's real easy to sign off now and re-up in the fall. BTW, I received quite a bit of mail about the format changes (or lack thereof) that I discussed in the last issue. Everybody that wrote was supportive of the current format. I didn't include responses in this digest because I don't want to get caught up in a meta-discussion, and I apologize for not responding personally to everyone who wrote. Nonetheless, people's input is always invaluable, and I appreciate the time it takes to write. -Mike Borella Editor of Notes From the Edge borella@snowball.cs.ucdavis.edu * * * * * * * * * * HEDGES ON YES: ============== Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 17:58:38 -0400 From: galfrid@nerix.nerdc.ufl.edu If anyone knows how I can get my hand on the Hedge's biography I would be extremely grateful....I have been to several bookstores to try to order it, but the publisher has gone out of business and so the bookstores can't get it. Also i have been trying to find someway to order the new Asia album, however since i live in central fla, it is very hard to get any imports, if someone knows a number or could order it for me then please get with me.... If you could help me with either of these i would be most grateful... My e-mail address is galfrid@nerix.nerdc.ufl.edu Thanks... --Jeffrey Moore * * * * * * * * * * RICK'S SATIRICAL WAYS: ====================== From: durendal@leland.stanford.edu (Benjamin M. Myers) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 13:23:17 PDT Just a brief note about the spoken words under the mix of "money" on YesYears which you keep printing lyrics for (or . . . for which you keep printing lyrics). Anyway, I spent 6 months in England last year, and I'm fairly sure that the phrase is not "partly satirical broadcast" but rather "party satirical broadcast," playing on the commonly used phrase "party political broadcast" which denotes speeches/comments by any of the UK's political parties on the electronic media. As Yes at the time of the recording were all British, I assume this phrase "party satirical broadcast" would have been humorous to them, if not to all of us barbarian americans sitting here in 1992 trying to figure out what they wrote, and coming up with "partly satirical" because we're clueless. Of course, I could be completely wrong, but it's only a guess. Thanks! Ben Myers [ Speaking of the lyrics, I don't really see the need to keep reprinting copies with every little change. While this will help us figure them out, it doesn't justify the space it takes up. I think a better solution is to put a couple of draft copies in the archives and people can suggest changes as they see fit. Eventually we should have a complete version. - Mike ] * * * * * * * * * * The "IT CAN HAPPEN" VOICES: =========================== Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 16:11:23 EDT From: Rob Petrone In NFTE #36, Mike W. mentioned that he picked up some voices mixed into "It Can Happen." These voices you hear are actually an interview with the band that they had recorded. They decided to mix the interview into the instrumental interlude of the song...just because! No reason, just cos it sounded neat. (I think this is one for the FAQ file! Someone asked this a few issues ago.) I am VERY interested in this new soundtrack collaboration by Kitaro and Jon Anderson! Has the CD or the CD3 been released in the States yet? Does Anderson sing on only those two songs which appear on the CD3 or does he lend his vocals to other songs on the album? Also, Lewis and Atsushi mentioned in #36 that Asia /Aqua/ has been released, but has it been released in the States? One last question. I am a big fan of the piano--although I don't play :(-- and I'm looking for more instrumental piano music to add to my collection. Surely, someone from Yes has released an album of exclusively piano music. I know Moraz and Bruford released "Music for the Piano and Drums," but I'm looking for just piano. At least *ONE* of Wakeman's thirtysomething solo albums must be piano music. Can anyone recommend some good piano stuff? (Of course, it doesn't have to be just Yes men, I like jazz & classical piano, as well as new age and popular piano. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Unless your suggestions would be appropriate for Notes from the Edge, please e-mail me at v1180g@vm.temple.edu) Thank you muchly! Regards from the City of (Brotherly) Love, Rob Petrone [ Rick has recorded three CDs of acoustic piano, Night Airs, Sea Airs and Country Airs. Night Airs is a good place to start. He also recorded The Family Album, which is mostly slow piano, and you might find Classical Connection (piano and bass) interesting. -Mike ] * * * * * * * * * * HOLDSWORTH AND UK: ================== Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 15:19:54 PDT From: edju%phakt.usc.edu@usc.edu (Dr. Hannibal Lecter) Jeremy Weissenburger's trivia about Rick's involvement in the short lived group UK reminds me of Allan Holdsworth, who played a breath-taking solo on one of UK's albums. Does anyone out there has details about Holdsworth and his involvement with UK? And what he's up to lately? I saw him playing at a club in Santa Monica a couple of months ago, he said he was recording a new solo album, but it's been a while... Eddie [ Rumor has it that Eddie Jobson "fired" Holdsworth, which prompted Bruford to leave as well. - Mike ] * * * * * * * * * * RABIN AS A LEADER: ================== Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 15:26:25 PDT From: edju%phakt.usc.edu@usc.edu (Dr. Hannibal Lecter) There seem to be a general perception on Rabin's "ego," or "bossiness." I think he has the right to assume the role of a leader because he salvaged the dying Yes from disaster, and it was Squire and Anderson who took over his material, intended to be on Rabin's solo album, and put on the moniker Yes. That's why by the time they made "Big Generator" the tension was so high between Rabin and Anderson that Anderson walked out. Eddie * * * * * * * * * * GTR ON CD: ========== Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 12:28:13 PDT From: kahului!whisler@lll-winken.llnl.gov (Douglas J Whisler) Is GTR really gone unavailable? Shall I buy it when I find it? - DW +++ +++ +++ +++ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 11:28:13 PDT From: edju%phakt.usc.edu@usc.edu (Dr. Hannibal Lecter) In response to the question concerning how to obtain the GTR album which is now out of print: I had the same problem when some scum stole my GTR CD about two years ago. Since Arista didn't print any more GTR CDs, I turned to mail-order dealers and eventually discovered that the Columbia House still have brand new copies in stock. That was almost a year ago, but they have a huge inventory so you should still be able to get it, at a steep price of around $15 + S & H. If you are a member already, I can dig up the catalog number of GTR so you can order it. "I Believe You Can Still Get Through" Eddie * * * * * * * * * * IN SEARCH OF: ============= Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1992 22:43 EST From: STOREYR@Venus.YCC.Yale.Edu Okay, several people have mentioned the new Say Yes CD set from the Union tour. I'm looking to get a two cassette copy of that set from someone who has the discs. I have an awful lot of Yes and related material to offer in a trade (both official and not), so please e-mail me if you can help in any way. Thank you. Ross Storey StoreyR@Venus.YCC.Yale.edu +++ +++ +++ +++ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 22:36:34 EDT From: mktjadx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Jeff A. Dilcher) While recently perusing the rarities list, I noticed that there was an entry for The Omni, Atlanta GA 6-25-79. Unfortunately, there were no individuals listed to contact. I am sentimental about this show, as it marks the first exposure I had to the band. I would like to hear e from anyone who may have this rarity. Perhaps, as an added incentive, ve, I could bribe you with some of my photographs that I took on that memorable evening 13 years ago! Thanks in Advance, Jeff Dilcher mktjadx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu * * * * * * * * * * JON'S LYRICAL MYSTIQUE: ======================= Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:35 EST From: A Lerxst in Wonderland <00JAVAUGHN@LEO.BSUVC.BSU.EDU> Hi folks. Just wanted to make a few comments about Yes... First of all - I really like most of Trevor Rabin's work with Yes. 90125 is great. What I don't like about the guy is that his lyrics are disgusting (e.g. the Saving My Heart quote from last issue.) and some of his playing on the older material. Specifically, on the Union tour his solo on Yours is no Disgrace is just disgusting. It doesn't fit in the song at all, and the majority of it is -- well -- NOISE! And his during his little solo break at the end of All Good People -- Eddie Van Halen tapping stuff might work for Rhythm of Love, but it really doesn't fit in that song. The one song I think Trevor has done justice to is the live version of And You and I from the boxset. The intro isn't anything like how Howe would play it, but it still works with the song. I really like Tony Kaye's accordian playing in that version, also. I think my favorite thing about Jon Anderson are the lines where he ignores grammar. For example: "I be telling you" -- Brother of Mine "How he dancing one and only" -- Lonely Heart "We living in gravity" -- Hold on "He young and tactile, he ready for anything that is" -- City o' Love. Sorry I don't have any older examples. I don't have the lyrics handy. Can anyone think of any more examples of bad grammar that sounds cool? Josh * * * * * * * * * * SOME MORE THOUGHTS: =================== Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 11:38:56 EST From: timothy culver jlwoodal@eos.ncsu.edu writes: >Bass - SQUIRE (The staple of the Yes sound) Oh yeah, you're right. Nobody else could possibly play those three notes on "Miracle of Life" quite the way Chris does. +++ +++ +++ +++ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 09:50:02 edt From: Gary_Hanley@DGC.ceo.dg.com >From: jlwoodal@eos.ncsu.edu >Without Trevor Rabin, Yes would have died in 1980. Well, 90125 would never have been created, but I don't think Yes would have died. Some kind of incarnation would have eventually surfaced. >(Well, OK, I could live without Tormato), What! No Tormato? Future Times/Rejoice; Release Release? Blasphemy! >If Anderson LOVED Yes so much, then why the hell does he keep quitting? Hey, work can be frustrating. I wish I had the option of quitting work everytime I had a bad day, and then coming back after a small hiatus! >From: ask1@cec2.wustl.edu (Andrew Scott Koransky) >Another incredible solo that I have heard is from their cover of >_America_. Actually in the May '78 issue of Guitar Play magazine, Howe stated, "When we did `America', that solo actually featured two guitarists. One was Delaney Bramlett..." I assumed he meant himself as the second guitarist. He mentioned a "Duane Eddy bit", but I couldn't understand if he meant that Duane Eddy also played on the song, or just his style. >From: Jason Finestone >Although I really enjoy this newsletter greatly, I wish that people would >lay off of Chris Squire's case!!! I second that! I have my gripes against Squire, but he is Yes second to Anderson. I saw the ABWH show, and as much as I enjoyed it, Tony Levin just wasn't a replacement for Squire. * * * * * * * * * * FUTURE OF YES: ============== Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 10:03:23 EDT From: Jim Watts After reading everyone's preference for the next lineup, I decided to throw my choice in...And the winner is...The current UNION lineup. Call me crazy, but I kinda like all the bodies up there...Hell lets add another 8 - 10 great musicians and call it an orchestra ;-> But seriously, I feel that two guitarists & two keyboardists (with different styles) definitely works well on stage, and should work equally well in the studio. As for drummers, well, I give up. I think both are excellent musicians, and two drummers on tour is a nifty gimmick, but I believe that Bruford will head for the "purer" art of jazz, even if he sticks it out for one more YES album. Squire will remain the Bass player forever. Yes Levin is excellent, but Squire, not Anderson, happens to be the glue that holds YES together. Whether or not he is in top form (allusions to his alleged "problem") isn't really an issue here. Besides, we've seen other great musicians go through phases of substance abuse and come out stronger and more focused (read: Clapton), and with the rest of YES around him maybe this will provide a catalyst for his return to top form. Also, we need Squire to act as the anchor that keeps Anderson tethered to this planet. Jon is great, but tends to have too many "out-of-body" experiences for my tastes. I hope this hasn't upset anyone who wants some members out, but I do like both the "old" and "new" YES albums. Jim Watts SAS Institute Inc. +++ +++ +++ +++ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:07:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew W Cushman I assume people are getting sick and tired of reading these, but this is my hopeful lineup for YES: Vocals: Anderson. He's a swell guy. Bass: I'd have to go with Levin. I think that Squire enjoys the 80's Yes too much (which I don't). Guitar: I've been dissapointed with Howe's recent stuff, but I also have confidence in him. As for Rabin, hopefully he'll go off and play for the next New Kids on the Block album. Keyboards: This is tough... I think Wakeman is more skilled, but I like Kaye's style a lot (especially on The Yes Album era). Ah well,. I guess I'd just have to say Emerson :) Drums: I can't believe people actually defend Alan White. I'd have to say Bruford, but only if he is going to put in a good effort. -Matt +++ +++ +++ +++ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 15:08:53 PDT From: edju%phakt.usc.edu@usc.edu (Dr. Hannibal Lecter) After reading so many comments and opinions on the "final" or "ultimate" Yes lineup, it seems like that a general consensus was reached for everything EXCEPT the guitarist. Yes has always been a one-guitar band, but I don't see why can't Yes expand to a two-guitar band. The radical differences in the styles of Rabin and that of Howe can clash and create a more exciting music than if they went their separate ways, I believe. Eddie +++ +++ +++ +++ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 09:51:52 PDT From: Mark.McCarron-Fraser@Corp.Sun.COM (Mark McCarron-Fraser) First of all I would like to associated myself with the remarks of Jason Finestone and Timothy C Webb in the last issue [#36]. My remarks are directed at a number of comments in issues 35 & 34. OK! Enough of this negativity stuff. All of these guys in YES are way superfine musicians and could totally shut down any you whiners on the net. What's with kicking Tony? [NFTE #35] I saw a UNION show at Concord - one of four shows I saw on that tour - when Rick's portable keyboard wasn`t working. Son on "Rhythm of Love" Tony took the solo while Rick walked around the stage shaking maracas. Tony' solo totally cooked! Also, how many of you saw the 90125 tour? Or Big Generator? Tony is great. No, he's not as flashy as Rick, but he is extremely cool. And - be honest now - what would be the point of Tony imitating Rick? YES needed to do something new when Tony rejoined. And Tony and Trevor have taken YES in a new direction while staying true to the YES sound and vision. Not an easy task. I can't say that I mind any criticism of J. Elias, but the rest of the guys should be our heros. Lastly, as long as we're fantasizing about a last/next YES album, here's my wish list: A LONG album including- A Howe/Rabin guitar duet A Kaye/Wakeman keyboard duet A lengthy visionary tune featuring Anderson/Squire/White/ Bruford/Howe/Rabin/Kaye/Wakeman/Downs/Horn/Moraz And tunes featuring these line-ups. Rabin/Horn/Squire/White/Moraz Bruford/Levin/Kaye/Anderson Anderson/Bruford/Wakeman/Howe/Levin Anderson/Rabin/Kaye/Squire/White Anderson/Rabin/Wakeman/Levin/Bruford Anderson/Rabin/Howe/Wakeman/Kaye/Squire/White/Bruford Yeah I know, extremely fanciful but what the heck. All of the above IMHO, of course. in the bluefields mark.mccarron-fraser@Corp.Sun.COM +++ +++ +++ +++ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:58 CST From: JL0941A@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU To all of you people out there who are saying "I want him and I want him in the band." Get a clue it is not up to us. It is what the people in the band and management think is best to sell. There has been much talk about certain band members from the "OLD ERA" of YES. That was then this is now. Their music has matured since those days. Look at RUSH they have changed, I am not saying that it is bad , just it is a different time. Alan White is very good. I am a drummer and I know what it takes to write up music and play it. Look at the song " Awaken" that is great, it was right for the music now they are playing a totally different type. Bill is also great but he is playing a style which no longer is a part of YES, Alan though is a rock drummer and that is what will sell. With the bass thing Squire is one of the best I have ever heard, when it comes time for him to leave I am sure the band will do that. I like his playing, he has a groove with the drums and someone mentioned "Owner of a lonely heart" First off Trevor Rabin made up that bass line and melody while he was on the "SHITTER" it is not Chris' fault that it is not so dominant. Like I have been saying it all deals with the time period, now they all know what will sell and they may write somewhat to that affect. I am also excited about Rabin and Wakeman writing together, at least that is what I heard they were planning. I like the line up now no change is needed, they all need one another. No matter what I will still buy the next record. * * * * * * * * * * NO FUTURE, NO FUTURE!: ====================== From: felix@wpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy Brian Lewis) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 92 3:12:55 EDT Okay, enough is enough, this "This Is Who Would Be In YES If They Followed My Advice Instead Of Being Stupid", has got to stop. What the hell does it really matter if your favorite YES member decides that he doesn't want to be on an album? I mean, come on, maybe he wants to stay home with the wife and kids (personally I'd rather be with my wife than in a hot sound room with a bunch of sweaty musicians). [ Ahh, but Timothy, think of what you're missing! :-) - Mike ] Being in a band isn't about sticking together until death do you part, it's about getting together with your friends, and having a jam session until your fingers fall off (I know, I'm in a band, and you've just got to experience it to understand). The whole reason Yes has survived isn't because ONE member pulled them together, it's because somebody called up someone else, and said, "You know, it'd be fun to get together sometime and do this". So, they called up the guys, and some of them said, "Yeah, it'd be fun to jam", and some others said,"No, the dog just had puppies, I can't make it". So the guys who came called some of their friends and had their friends fill in for the missing parties, and they jammed. Then someone said, "Hey, this stuff sounds pretty good, let's cut an album - yeah, Tony you can have your own person line on the album sleeve, oh and hey, you know if you ever want band membership, you know be a part of YES, don't ever hesitate to PISS OFF!" The important part is that YES lives on because some of the members took the time to make some more music. Besides, does it really matter that much that YES isn't a solidly formed group with members that stay in until they die. I don't think so. That's what makes YES such a cohesive group, the fact that they lack any sort of cohesion. These changes in band members keeps YES progressive (for proof of this, check out The YES Album, Relayer, Drama, 90125, and Union), and among the avant garde of rock bands. So bottom line... When YES makes their next album they could pick from: Anderson, Bruford, Howe, Kayes, Rabin, Squire, Wakeman, White They could include Tony Levin, Peter Banks, Geoff Downes, and Patrick Moraz if they like. Hell, they could include Jimmy Page, John Paul Jones, and Robert Plant if they wanted to (this almost happened back in 1980)! Hey, whoever's AVAILABLE, and WANTS TO DO IT... It isn't going to make a difference to me or you, because we'll still want the album anyway! [ Umm, I'd probably pass if they included the New Kids... :-) - Mike ] By the way, here's my YES wish list (just to be a jerk): Vocals: Weird Al (hey, he's got lyrics that are almost as good) Guitar: The Edge, or David Burn (I don't know who's worse) Bass: Tina Weymouth (she can do backing vocals too {SCREECH}) Drums: by CASIO (at least the cymbals will be timed right) keyboards: Robert Schumann (okay, so he's dead - guess they'll need a CASIO) Sorry 'bout that, I had to. A NOTE ON CHRIS SQUIRE Please stop ragging on Chris Squire, even if he does have an alcohol problem just realize: Jimi Hendrix did drugs, and died by choking on his own vomit after drinking quite the bit of Vodka, and he was the absolut (sorry) best rock guitar player who ever lived (source - ERIC CLAPTON - "I've got a lick that'll beat Jeff Beck, and Jeff Beck has a lick that'll beat mine, but Jimi Hendrix has a lick that'll beat us both.) John Bonham died the same way, and was amazing at drums. Eric Clapton has been said to to have done some funny stuff... Stevie Ray Vaughan did drugs, and then rehabilitated, and he was amazing... So if Chris Squire has an alcohol problem, I don't really give a flying poo, because I know he's amazing at bass, and when he's on stage or in the studio, he's not going to be drunk. Would you walk into the office that way? No, you'd be in trouble. The way you are picturing Chris is passed out on the floor of the studio with his axe in one had and his best friend Jack Daniels in the other, while Jon trips over him. Not only is this rude, it's just plain stupid. felix@wpi.wpi.edu +++ +++ +++ +++ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1992 19:58 -0500 From: MOONLIT KNIGHT Folks, enough speculation on the members for the next album; unless someone has an attack or something it's going to be the Egregious Eight again. Tony Levin has alot of merits as a bassist and stickster but I couldn't see his taking over unless Squire died or retired for some reason, and he would probably still only be a session man. I've had some bad things to say about Kaye in the past, but recent comments are well taken: he's not personally spectacular but he's good and necessary. But if you insist on spending your precious time in speculation on such matters, then it's better spent wondering what they should they play on the next tour. There are two kinds of lists to make, of course: the fantasy list and one which could come to be, infused by preferences. I don't know if there's any point in the first kind ("well, they open with Relayer then do Going for the One and close with Close to the Edge"). So here's my shot at a show for 1993. Alot of my feelings about a new show aren't formed by a disappointment with the 91 shows but by a desire for difference. Yours is No Disgrace is a great opener, and has the elements it needs: it isn't specific to one period since everyone has played it, and it has audience recognition. I could live with a rehash of it but prefer a change. I nominate Heart of the Sunrise; this song has made sort of a return on the past few tours: a little weakly in 88, back for real on ABWH and in 91. It's a staple as a classic song which isn't tired (Roundabout, Your Move) and they seem to like it. Nevertheless I could live without it to make time for something really interesting; or, you could make it the opener in place of Disgrace and make some room that way. Well let's talk periods for a moment. Hopefully, there will be a decent amount of new music that they will want to play. On past tours they did the whole new album; last year it was just two songs. Hopefully the new stuff will be such that they'll spend 20-30 minutes on it. As for Union, I think someone said it right, that it was an event more than an album. Lift Me Up, an amazing live tune, should be done in 91, but nothing else. As for the 80s albums, Owner of a Lonely Heart is not only a economic necessity but also, like Lift Me Up, is among Rabin songs which measure up live with the older material. Changes is Trev's baby but I don't care for it. I thought Rhythm of Love was fantasitc in 91. Cinema/Leave It could be good, but the intros to Owner and Lift Me Up provide the Cinema band's instrumental style well; the song Cinema would be redundant. Leave It could be interesting. My only new suggestion from this period is Final Eyes. Those marginal albums Tormato and Drama: hmmm. Something from here could be interesting, and of course it could spice up someone's solo, but I don't have any strong opinions. As far as Close to the Edge, Relayer, and Going for the One are concerned, my only question is how much can we get in there. The oft planned seldom heard piece of Ritual is also welcome. People's solos, then. #1: Steve Howe get off your ass. Clap and Mood are great pieces, but enough. I'm up for Turn of the Century, perhaps with Jon singing for part of it. Trevor is intractable; I think I'm starting to like old cap'n Solly out of pure repetition. He was better on the second leg with Dueling Banjos and the jeans which weren't quite so tight. Squire, I was heartbroken to see that the Fish contained Soundchaser as well as Tempus Fugit in dress rehearsal. The carefully sectioned off greatest hits type solo is pleasing, though it's been around since 90125. I hear stories about montrous bass improvisation on the Drama tour, but I'm not holding my breath. Drums: the duet was a good idea, but compromising for both. White used to do these very strange solos but some sort of snyth stuff attached; Bruford can't really lay into the Simmons kit while keeping pace with Alan. But it saves time. Neither Kaye or Wakeman disappointed me last time (though in different ways). I have a very strong opinion about the end of the show; sure, Roundabout is necessary and fun, but I saw a show in which they continued with Starship Trooper and one which ended with Roundabout, and the difference upon leaving was tremendous. So I think the encore should contain two songs even at the expense of another song within the show. If they turn on the lights after Roundabout it seems like they're just doing the hit and then taking off; Starship Trooper really takes you there. As far as big songs are concerned, Gates of Delirium is probably too much to ask for. Yes doesn't have the tradition of medleys of old songs that Genesis does, though they have been known to do 'pieces'. So perhaps we'll get Soon or some of Soundchaser by Squire; but I don't want to see Relayer ignored entirely. It has occurred to me that the crescendo of Gates could be segued from almost any song that has a fast part towards the end. I guess there is a big question: Awaken or Close to the Edge? If it were Awaken again then I'd like to see Khatru as well as the uncuttable And You and I; likewise, if it's Close to the Edge, then there ought to be some Going for the One stuff that hasn't been played in a while: Parallels, title thang, Wondrous Stories. I guess I prefer Close to the Edge slightly; not because it's a better song, but because I'd like to see it again. But maybe the whole band can't deal as well, since they didn't all do it last year. Perhaps that's an idea to get a longer show: more partial band songs. I guess they want to present a unified Yes; but on the other hand, what's the point in having Howe on stage for Lift Me Up? A couple of theoretical shows for next year, kept to 2hrs plus in hope of new material, although the "Close to the Edge for the 90s" isn't anticipated: Heart of the Sunrise Leave it [something new] Howe does Turn of the Century, acoustic intro to And You and I Rabin Lift Me Up *--* Close to the Edge Wakeman Wonderous Stories The Fish, incl. Soundchaser Final Eyes Drum Duet Owner of a lonely Heart *--* Roundabout Starship Trooper Ok, you don't like that one. Try this one. Yours is no Disgrace Lift Me Up Howe: Clap/Turn of the Century Ritual exerpt sans Bruford Rabin Kaye Rhythm of Love Rabin Owner of a lonely Heart into Gates of Delirium *--* Drum Duet Long Distance Runaround The Fish/Tempus Fugit Final Eyes Wakeman Awaken Siberian Khatru *--* And You and I Roundabout Well, that's enough from me for one issue. Your Move can be thrown in where needed. Enough already! * * * * * * * * * * ENDNOTES: ========= After reading over the last few posts, I have to agree that the "Ultimate Yes Line-up" thread has run its course. I'm not saying that people shouldn't post their fantasy line-ups or anything, but that perhaps it's time to discuss a few new things. Besides, "list" stuff like this (favorite members, ultimate concert song-list, anything that requires many readers to list things) are usually better done off the newsletter. One person collates the responses and posts an edited list with most popular, and a few comments, etc, etc. Any volunteers? -Mike Borella Editor of Notes From the Edge borella@snowball.cs.ucdavis.edu * * * * * * * * * * THOSE ALL-IMPORTANT ADDRESSES: ============================== New subscribers, contributions, questions/comments/criticism, and additions/corrections to the discography: Mike Borella (Editor) borella@snowball.cs.ucdavis.edu NFTE Server (lyrics, backissues, discography, rarities, surveys, GIFs): Automated. For help send mail with subject line yes-archive@meiko.com "send main help" to NFTE Server problems, additions/corrections to the lyrics & GIFs, and additions/corrections to the rarities list: Mike Stok mike@meiko.com NFTE backissues and lyrics via anonymous FTP from cs.uwp.edu (131.210.1.4): Backissues: Directory: /pub/music/lists/yes Lyrics: Directory: /pub/music/lyrics/files/yes GIFs: Directory: /pub/music/gifs/yes Contact for helping out with transcriptions: Greg Utas utas@bnr.ca For Import CD's (last resort): Joe Pizzirusso joep@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com ******************************************************************************** --< END OF NOTES FROM THE EDGE #37 >-- ********************************************************************************