* * * * * * * * * * ______ ______ ____________ _________ / \ | \ __/ \ __/ \__ | \| \ / |/ _ \ | // _____ || / \_/ \ // / \ \\_ \___ \ || _____ ___\ \ \_ \ \ || / --/ ______| \ \ ___\ || | | - /______ __/ \ ___/ \ \\ \_ \_ // | / ___\ _/ \_ \ \_ _// | \__ \__/ ___/ \_ \____ | \_/ \__ ___/ \___ _/ \__ \__/ \ \_________/ \_____/ \_ \_____/ \ \_ | \_ | \__ __/ \_____________/ N o t e s F r o m T h e E d g e #69 (c) THE Internet Magazine For YES Fans May 24, 1993 * * * * * * * * * * IN THIS ISSUE ============= Wakeman In NYC - - Some Yes News Wakeman In Philly - - An Interview Rick Wakeman - - Live Laserdisc Thoughts - - And Musings Bodast - - A Response Billy Sherwood - - Info Sought Live Videos - - Looking Around Lyrics/Transcriptions - - Available Help For Chile - - From Puerto Rico Rick Wakeman - - Some Thoughts Live CD's - - A List The FAQ - - Some Input Squire vs. Levin - - The Final Word? >From The Editor - - A Dilemma * * * * * * * * * * WAKEMAN IN NYC, YES NEWS ======================== From: IN%"AACUNZO@ccmail.sunysb.edu" "Andy Acunzo" Ah, where to begin. On Wednesday, May 19th, I saw Rick Wakeman perform at the Town Hall at NYC (and, once again, if it wasn't for NFTE, I wouldn't have even known about it!) It was one helluva night. My friend Frank and I were planning to review different aspects of the show separately tomorrow (he wrote down the setlist), but I just found out that the computer sinc site isn't open tomorrow, and he's not here now, and I wanted to get this in as soon as possible, so here it is. We arrived at the hall 3 hours before the gig in a desparate attempt to meet Wakeman. He had just gone in for soundcheck, so we had to wait outside. Being so early, we were the only fans there. About an hour later, a guy came out and said "He'll come out and talk to you and sign your things in a few minutes." :) :) :) :) :) :) Sure enough, that's what happened. At this point there were maybe 5-10 people there. I was blown away getting to meet him, but somehow managed to stay calm. He talked to us and joked around. He was really friendly and demonstrated the same Wakeman Wit I'd only seen previously in _Yesyears_ (the video) and _Greatest Video Hits_. First off (well, 4 paragraphs in) I'll explain that after reading in the last NFTE the day before the show that he was just kicked out of Yes (that would make him the first member to leave 3 times, right?) and didn't want to talk about it, I wasn't about to mention it. Luckily, someone else did - "Are you going to be touring with Yes later this year?" He answered, "I hope so, I'm looking forward to it. We just have to see if we can straighten everything out with the managements." There you have it, folks, right from the horse's mouth - either Rick's in a serious case of denial, or the announcement that he was unceremoniously tossed from the band was a little exaggerated. It seems nothing is finalized yet one way or the other, at least that's the impression I got. After reading the interview with Rick in the Gibraltar digest a month or two ago and seeing how much he mentioned his son, my friend tried to get in good with him by saying, "So Rick, is your son gonna show you up tonight?" "Oh, yes. He shows me up every night," was his reply. Then my friend asked him who else was in his band (his son, Adam, plays keyboards), and he said something about the bass player - I think his name was Alan Thompson. Then he said "And Tony Fernandez is on drums. He's been with me for years; he still thinks one of these days I'm going to pay him." :) I actually had the nerve to ask, "Are you releasing anything in the U.S. anymore?" "We're trying," he said, "but we're having a tough time finding a record company to distribute the stuff. We wanted to come and play here anyway, though." Okay, now to the show itself. I have to say I was pleasantly surprised that it drew almost entirely from his first 3 albums, so I knew most of the material. With the number of albums he has out, he could have easily played hours and hours of music I've never heard. They're closing the room now, I have to go. Highlights? Well _Journey_ had to be one of the most incredible pieces of live music I've ever seen performed. I timed it, just out of curiousity - I figured he'd do maybe a 20 minute version - 37 fucking minutes long! Non stop playing! Soloing like a maniac! Got a well-deserved staniding ovation. Before it he talked about performing the piece 19 years ago in "a little nightclub not too far from here, called Madison Square Garden...There were over 500 people on stage that night, and we'd like to try and duplicate that for you now." Then he turned around and looked at the 3 other guys on stage with him as the audience roared with laughter. He also said, "We wanted to do some surprises for you, so this next piece is one that's not written by me. It was written by Paul McCartney. (mild applause, some laughter (!)) It's called Elanor Rigby. One of my favorite loves, though, is Russian music, especially Prokofiev (huge response from crowd!), so what I've done is I've arranged Elanor Rigby in the style of Prokofiev. (lots of laughter) We've locked the doors, so you can't get out. (audience in hysterics)" I wish I taped this - it was hilarious! In the encores he also did "Paint It Black" by the Stones, too. His son had a solo spot, which was really good. After it, Rick said "I'm glad he's so good, that way he can take care of me when I'm in the home for the chronically groovy." :) During Merlin the father and son each strapped on portable keyboards and dueled it out on the fron of the stage. It was great. When it came to The Fast Part, though - Rick was unbelievable. He kept speeding it up! I don't know what else to say. Well, they're kicking me out now, I wish I could say more, but I guess I've taken up the entire digest already... * * * * * * * * * * WAKEMAN NEWS ============ From: IN%"gilliam@asel.udel.edu" "Dan Gilliam" Here's the Yes-related portion of Rick Wakeman's appearance on WMMR, 93.3 FM in Philadelphia before his concert on the 21st. Hopefully this stuff will be of interest to those who are planning on catching the tour. BUT the main item is that Rick is NOT out of the band - he says they are working out their managerial problems. [opens with discussion of Ricks's tour of Europe, America, etc. with his son. So far they've played The Town Hall in New York the 18th (where everybody said "Happy Birthday" in honor of Rick's birthday on the 17th), The Chance in Poughkeepsie on the 20th, and The Chestnut Cabaret in Philadelphia on the 21st. The touring band is Rick, Tony Fernandez on drums, Alan Thompson on bass, and Rick's son, Adam Wakeman (age 19), on keyboards and possibly vocals as well. Adam's just recorded his first album, with some degree of success apparently. They are booked through to the end of June with the U.S. tour, and decided to tour another three weeks here after the first night of the tour went well. Played "Paint It Black" (cover of the Rolling Stones tune) from the father-son album "Wakeman with Wakeman" - nice synth-heavy instrumental version, pretty much just something to layer some nice solos on top of. Adam's solo is comparable to Rick's, by the way, maybe more guitar-like in style. They're still looking for a distributor for the album in the U.S. ] [JD is John DiBella, the (somewhat annoying) DJ.] JD: Now, I guess, for the audience's sake, I should ask you, if uh, what's doing with the "Larry Maggot[?] Octet", also known as Yes. RW: [laughs] Uh, well, I'm hoping to see Larry while I'm in town, 'cause Larry's a good mate. Um, the octet is down to a sextet, that I do know - or at least a sextet, [or?] even more. To go into a very, very brief scenario, otherwise, you know, this'll become about as collectible as the beach report by the time I've finished with it. [WMMR aired a "beach report" just before the interview started] JD: [laughs] RW: Basically, Yes, as you know, is... Yes combined with ABWH to form the Union, but the Yes guys still, you know, and quite correctly, held on to, on to the name, with that management group over there. So, when a new deal came to, to come up, it really had nothing to do with the ABWH side, it was all the other side of things. So, it moved from Arista to Victory Records, distributed through Polygram, I think, whatever. And, so it was the four guys that were signed over there. Jon was then also, um, became part of it and I became part of it on a separate thing as well. Um, and nobody really knew who was in it, I mean I didn't know until about four or five months after I signed up who was in it! I mean, it's the first time I've ever joined something [mumble] hazard a guess. No perm... whatever... from whatever. [no idea what this means] JD: Mmm hmm. RW: So, there is, or there was cropped up a bit of a problem, um, managerial problems - the usual political things that happen within Yes. But hopefully they're being sorted out. I spoke to Jon about a week ago, and basically some time in June I'm going to be out in California and see them. I know that Jon's been doing a lot of writing with Trevor, and Jonny's very excited about it, and I... JD: Trevor's still in LA? RW: Yeah. Jon's in Peking at the moment. He was trying to get a good Chinese meal somewhere. Um, Trevor, Trevor and he I know have been doing some writing... JD: [laughing] "Have tent, will travel!" RW: Absolutely! You find - he said [(in a hilarious high-pitched voice)] "I've just come in, into Los Angeles from Peru." I said, "OK, Jon, and I'll call you tomorrow." [(said childishly)] "I'm going to Peking tonight," he said. Only Jon can do that, it's wonderful. Jon is one of these wonderful - I mean, Jon and I have been great, great friends, as you know, for donkey's years. JD: He's a wonderful man. He really is. RW: Oh, he is. He's the only person I know who's trying to save this planet while living on a totally different one. JD: [loses it completely for the next minute or so] RW: You know, it's marvellous. He's fantastic. He's one of my greatest friends, John, he really is. So, I'm going to go and see him in June, he came over and stayed with me for about a week the beginning of the year, we had a great time. And we're... you know, I'm going to go out there and we'll sort it out musically and to hell with the politics that go on. Politics have done too much to destroy Yes over the years, it's about time the band took hold of everything. But, now, less of that, let's - on to the beach report. JD: Now, have you heard anything about a Chris Squire record? I've been hearing rumor about a Chris Squire record for the longest time, and... RW: I -- hand on heart, I haven't! I mean, I would, I'd love to know, 'cause Chris is a, is so much more than a bass player. He's got a lot of talent, he's a great writer, and a talented, talented fellow... JD: And a _good_ eater. RW: I'm sorry? JD: And a good eater. RW: A _serious_ eater. Oh yeah, oh yeah, he eats for Britain. JD: [loses it again] RW: And they were thinking of having an Olympics, sort of a part of the Olympics, of, you know, the eating area. And I think that... mind you, I was close to becoming his deputy. Oh, it'd be great if Chris did a record. I mean, I'm sure with the guys in between albums being done, must get up and make _some_ music. And it's a long time overdue since Chris -- I mean, Fish Out of Water was a great album. JD: Mmm hmm. RW: And a new one's long overdue. JD: Well, now, he recently got married. RW: So I heard. I mean, I get - JD: Well that'll get him into the studio. RW: Sorry? JD: That'll get him into the studio. Give him six months of married life, and - RW: We have enough trouble getting him out of bed to go out on gigs! I mean, it's going to be hopeless now. [both laugh] Now, Chris is, I honestly don't know very well, 'cause living on the other side of the pond, everybody else is on this side. JD: Mmm hmm. RW: And so you don't, in the [nicest?] sense, pop 'round for cups of coffee. JD: Right. RW: And with the time change. I mean, I do speak to everybody. I mean Alan and I -- my van's still in Alan's driveway. I don't think his wife's very pleased about it. And I've got to get that out of the way at some juncture. Sorry about that. She can't hear me anyway. And Jon's basically living out here all the time now. Trev's out here, 'course, permanently, and so is Alan and Chris, and Tony. So... JD: Now, Bill's still in England, isn't he? RW: Bill is in England, and Steve's in England. But Steve's now working, um, doing solo stuff and with Asia. JD: Mmm hmm. RW: Bill, I believe, is still doing Earthworm. JD: Earthworks. RW: Wor- ah, works, sorry. Earthworm. Still doing that. But you know, Bill, Bill will always carry on doing a certain amount of rock and roll in order to finance the jazz side which he really loves - JD: Mmm hmm, sure. RW: And that's really where Bill's at. JD: Bill usually comes through town at least once a year. RW: Yeah. JD: At least once a year he'll come through with Earthworks. RW: Yeah, that's his great love in life. And I, I respect him for his honesty on that as regards to the jazz syndrome. I mean I'm not a great jazz - doesn't really do a blasting lot for me. To me it's a bit like watching, you know, the grass grow, it's one of those sort of syndromes. It doesn't do a lot for me. But it really is what Bill believes in, and I wish him lots of luck with it. [later Rick jokes about his kids taking care of him when he's old and they have to put him in the "home for the chronically groovy", makes some comments about his family, unrest in Germany, European unification, and politicians. Plays "Gone But Not Forgotten" on piano live in the studio, which he introduces as written for the war in the Falkland Islands, and later dedicated to the troops in the Gulf war. When asked how he explains his musical ability, he mentions his Christian beliefs and that if he's got a God-given gift, then he thinks God gave it to the wrong person...] * * * * * * * * * * WAKEMAN LASER DISC ================== From: IN%"mktjadx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu" "Jeffrey A. Dilcher" I have a somewhat rare live laser disk of Wakeman performing Catherine Parr, Elizabeth Rock, Make Me a Woman, Anne Boleyn, Journey to the Centre of the Earth, and Merlin the Magician. This is an awsome show, with good camera views and excellent sound. I would gladly make a transfer for anyone willing to make me a transfer of their new Yes Japanese laser disk that was recently released. Please contact me by email at the above address. * * * * * * * * * * VARIOUS MUSINGS =============== From: IN%"mcmahan@cs.unca.edu" Notes From The Edge -- the official Internet newsletter for U2 guitarist fans?! :) Seriously, the Alan White deal was really great. I'm glad Yes is interested in the list and what is happening. Is there any way to get in touch with the management for interviews? I'd love a Tony Kaye interview. Ask him all the questions that need asking and all that. No one to my knowlege has *ever* interviewed him! [Ed. - There was an interview with Kaye and Wakeman in Keyboard magazine when Union was released.] Hopefully Alan will get the responses to the interview and give us some answers! I *should* have asked him about Tony Kaye's solo album and the ill-fated Yes record label. I would *love* an *audio* copy of that Jon Anderson show! I'm a big fan of his solo stuff and would like to see what he has done. I can't handle video though... I'll wait until I see what develops, but if anyone gets the video and wants to trade audio tapes, I have a few Yes things. The Yes lyrics to Money appear in a previous issue, but there are a *lot* of non-album songs that do not have lyrics transcribed, such as Take It Easy. I can't puzzle out a lot of what Trevor is singing in that number. Bill Bruford is one drummer who can't play a beat to save his life. He syncopates every single bar, and often plays totaly random things. I bet the Brother Of Mine section *is* in 4/4, only with Bill accenting a different beat every time. I don't see how Yes stays together on songs like Close To The Edge with Bill's drumming. That proves just how good they are. Alan is a *lot* better at providing a solid rhythmic framework in any time signature than Bill. But, however, Bill gives Yes a lot more complex sound in the way he syncopates. A lot of Steve's stuff is in Yes Complete, such as all his famous guitar songs like Mood For A Day. I doubt any of his solo albums have transcribed sheet music! I'm at a loss to figure out what "also Midi information" is asking for. Has anyone worked out any of the songs in Fish Out Of Water? I don't suppose actual sheet music was made for it.... * * * * * * * * * * BODAST ====== From: IN%"V1180G@TEMPLEVM.BITNET" "Rob Petrone" In response to "Robin Hood's" question about Steve Howe solo albums in NftE #68, Steve was also in a band called Bodast circa 1969, prior to joining Yes. Just the other day, I found a CD in Tower Records called "Steve Howe with Bodast: The Early Years" which has some incredible guitar work by Steve. It has 10 tracks which have been remixed by Howe himself: Do You Remember Tired Towers Beyond Winter Mr. Jones Once in a Lifetime 1,000 Years Black Leather Gloves Nether Street I Want You Nothing to Cry For I'd recommend it for any Howe collector. Vintage stuff here. * * * * * * * * * * BILLY SHERWOOD ============== From: IN%"hallg@egr.msu.edu" "Greg Hall" Hello NFTE readers, I have been enjoying the Yesoteric collection and during my listening I started to wonder about Billy Sherwood. Can anyone elaborate on his involve- ment with Yes? Also, a little info on his past (Groups or Solo) would stifle my curiosity. Also, could anyone identify any of the members of the Chris Squire Experiment (other than Chris)? * * * * * * * * * * LOOKING FOR VIDEOS ================== From: IN%"levine@oclc.org" "gene levine" I'm looking for folks with bootleg YES videos. I have several and am willing to trade. If interested, email me with your list. I'm also looking for someone who has a copy of the Queens Park LD. * * * * * * * * * * LYRICS AND TRANSCRIPTIONS ========================= From: IN%"edju@scf.usc.edu" In reply to questions from issue #68: Lyrics - You can find the lyrics to "Money" in the authentic guitar-tab edition of "Classic Yes - Selection from YESYEARS". I was going to type up a copy but apparently the editors at Warner Bros. screwed up - in the repeat after the solos, it said "see additional lyrics" but I don't see it anywhere. If you are buying a copy of this book, hopefully it'll be an updated/corrected copy. Steve Howe guitar transcriptions - The book mentioned above contains guitar parts to: Hold On I've Seen All Good People (parts A & B) Long Distance Runaround Money Montreux's Theme Owner of a Lonely Heart Roundabout Tempus Fugit Other better transcriptions are scattered around in magazines: "Mood For A Day" is the only one that I am aware of (since Yes doesn't get much coverage in guitar mags!) which is on the summer 1988 edition of Guitar For the Practicing Musicians' "The Acoustic Classics" issue. Good luck in tracking down more transcriptions! * * * * * * * * * * HELP FOR CHILE AND JA VIDEO =========================== From: IN%"J_SANTIAGO@UPR1.UPR.CLU.EDU" "Javier Santiago" Read the message the guy from Chile posted on the last edition of NFTE (68) and I think I can help. I'll be going to Chile in July and if there's any deal that can be set with the guy, I'll be happy to colaborate. A married couple which are friend's of mine will be arriving that same month to Brown University where R. Us. Hartnett works, so that any tape can arrive easily by the end of July. I'll be contacting this same week the guy in Chile to make the same proposition. I'll be waiting your answer... * * * * * * * * * * WAKEMAN THOUGHTS ================ From: IN%"westmstr!grk@sunpitt.East.Sun.COM" "Dori Kelly" Just wanted to reply to Mike's post about Wakeman being "booted" from Yes. Wouldn't it be interesting to know the specifics as to why they wanted him to drop his current management? Well my husband and I are going to his Pittsburgh show at Grafitti (which is a pretty small club) May 26th at 8:30. I almost wish now that ABWH would have stayed together. I can't help wondering if were going to be hearing more of the same stuff. Not that I don't like it, its just it was good to hear some of the old stuff. I don't expect to hear "Awaken" or anything from "Relayer" on the next tour. I hope it doesn't take 9-10 years again before Steve is on another Yes album. Although Trevor has been in the band 13 years, in that time Yes has only put out 4 albums (or should I say 3 1/2 not including YesYears) 90125, 9012Live, Big Generator, Union. In the same amount of time how many Yes albums were put out with Steve being in the band? 11 in 10 years. Now thats something to think about. * * * * * * * * * * LIVE RECORDINGS =============== From: IN%"chitalia@graphite.csee.usf.edu" "John Chitalia" Hello, all. Here's the listing of boots & prices from the local Internet boot dealer. This is just to give a reference to available boots and possible prices you may encounter for them. I am in no way endorsing him nor the sale of bootlegs. This is just for information's sake. YES Domino (California 1988) 2 CD $50 Say Yes (Wembly 1991) 2 CD $50 Resurrecting The Dragon (U.S. 1986) 2 CD $50 Quasi-Mystical Vision (Roosevelt Stadium, New Jersey 6/76) $25 The First Steps (London 1971) $25 Looking Around (Goteberg 1971, BBC 1969-70, Beat Club 1969) $25 Golden Age (studio 1979 + S. Howe & C. Squire TV 1977) $25 Re-Evolution (Boston 1974) $30 London 1975 $30 Quebec 1979 $30 * * * * * * * * * * FAQ INPUT ========= From: IN%"MPELATH@ucs.indiana.edu" "The Thieving Magpie" Definitely a good start on the FAQ! But a few comments: 1) I could have sworn that Jon said "And You and I", not "Close to the Edge" was inspired by Siddhartha. But as they're on the same album, and Jon was reading it at the same time both were written, I wonder if it's not both. Although I've read Siddhartha and I've not seen the connection to AYAI. I'll have to think about CTTE. 2) I doubt if Chris is called the Fish because he spends a lot of time in the tub. I'm pretty sure that's why Fish is called Fish. * * * * * * * * * * SQUIRE VS. LEVIN - THE FINAL WORD? ================================== From: IN%"D.Sellars@fulcrum.co.uk" "Dave Sellars" I know this one's been done to death, but I have strong feelings on the matter. Firstly, I understand that a lot of people like Levin's bass playing, and I must admit that he is good, possibly technically better than the Fish himself. However, the relevant point is his contribution (past, but hopefully not future, IMHO) to YES. What makes Squire the man is his past - all the great Yes tracks not only have him playing on them, but contributing to the writing and the whole *thing* that was Yes at their peak (i.e. 1970s). He held the band together in terms of his vision (along with Jon) of what they were about. He is, and always has been, an integral part of Yes, contributing much more than just a bit of nifty bass playing. I didn't like ABWH for this reason (no Squire = not Yes), but I also thought it was pretty poor anyway. When I heard all the stories about how the members were never in the same studio at the same time, it didn't surprise me - it actually sounds like that! As for the ABWH contributions to _Union_ well I had no trouble identifying which were the _Generators_ tracks and which were ABWH - the ABWH ones were the ones that didn't register, the Rabin-gang songs were the catchy ones! Maybe Chris Squire is no longer the innovative force he once was, and his personal problems are not really our concern (the presumption of some 'fans' saying they would like to help him detox! Who the hell do they think they are?!) but he (along with Jon, Steve, Bill, Rick, Alan, the Trevors, Geoff, Patrick, etc...) made Yes the respected musical force it was. Tony Levin didn't. He made one-and-a-half mediocre albums with the band, and is no longer part of it. Given some inspiration, Squire is still the man! (Phew! Glad I got it out of my system.) * * * * * * * * * * ALTERNATIVE DISCOGRAPHY AVAILABLE ================================= From: IN%"ab149@freenet.buffalo.edu" "Paul Bartek" Jeff, I'm sending this for a friend on Prodigy. Roy DeRousse is a very knowledgable Yes fan. This discography the most complete I've ever seen. Roy asks for any comments or corrections at the addresses listed at the end of the file. I think a lot of folks will be interested in it. --Roy DeRousse can be reached at: Genie: R.DeRousse2@genie.geis.com CIS: 76236,1244, Prodigy: PFNT11A [Ed. - Due to the size of this file I've asked Paul to make this discography available at the yes-archive@meiko.com or you can contact him directly for a copy. I urge you to look it over and respond to his friend.] * * * * * * * * * * FROM THE EDITOR =============== I'm encouraged by the news that Wakeman may still be in, as I know many of you are. Let's hope it all works out....but... That said, I want to address something this issue forced that's never happened before. I received many posts commenting on the Wakeman issue. Current news forced me to do one of two things. (1) Include all those posts, even though the discussion was rendered moot by current Wakeman statements. (2) Forgo their inclusion in favor of the current news. I chose #2. As you know I don't moderate Notes. It just seemed pointless to include debate that wasn't an issue for now. Who knows...Wakeman and Yes may not work things out and the debate will rise yet again. To all those whose posts I omitted please accept my apology. Keep those cards and letters coming ;-) -jeff * * * * * * * * * * THOSE ALL-IMPORTANT ADDRESSES: ============================== New subscribers, contributions, questions/comments/criticism: Jeff Hunnicutt (Editor) hunnicutt@vxc.uncwil.edu NFTE Server (lyrics, backissues, discography, rarities, surveys, GIFs): Automated. For help send mail with subject line yes-archive@meiko.com "send main help" to NFTE Server problems, additions/corrections to the lyrics & GIFs, and additions/corrections to the rarities list: Mike Stok mike@meiko.com NFTE backissues, lyrics, etc, via anonymous FTP: cs.uwp.edu Directory: /pub/music/lists/yes Contact for helping out with transcriptions: Greg Utas utas@bnr.ca For Import CD's (last resort): Joe Pizzirusso joep@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com The Yesoteric Tape(s): United States ============= East Coast: R. uS. Hartnett (hartnett@ocpt.ccur.com) New England: Matt Boyd (st403637@brownvm.brown.edu) Central US: William H. Stoner III (bilbo@cis.ohio-state.edu) Southern US: Jeff Mason (jrm@elm.circa.ufl.edu) West Coast: Don Tyler (dtyler@us.oracle.com) Canada ====== Mike Hackett (hackett@gaul.csd.uwo.ca) Europe ====== UK: David Owen (dro@dsbc.icl.co.uk) Europe (besides the UK): (blok@astro.rug.nl) Australia ========== Andrew Studer (studer@physics.su.oz.au) Asia ==== Atsushi Shionozaki (shio@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp) ******************************************************************************** --< END OF NOTES FROM THE EDGE #69 >-- ********************************************************************************