Notes From the Edge
Issue #288

June 4, 2004


Yesshows Hub

Yes tickets for Birmingham Required

Wanted

CD Store in Amsterdam

Online

In-Depth Trevor Rabin Interview Online

Albums

Reissues No Better

90124 - Check It Out!

Performance

Concert Review - Mandelay Bay, Las Vegas 4/21/04

Dialog

Wakeman Writes Intro to New Wooding Book

Hoping for Acoustic Album

What DRAMA?

Submitted for Your Approval

Turn of the Parallels

Chronic Yessounds

Yes Music for Drumlines

Compensation!

TURBULENCE on Vinyl

Yamaha Baby Grand Electric Organ or Piano?!

BIG GENERATOR: Not Enough Bonus Material?

"Clap" Spoken Intro

A Thought to Bill Burchell (NFTE #287)

What is That Instrument on CTTE?

"The Ancient" Debate

Moaning Yes Fans

Finally, "Mind Drive" live!

Summer Tour: More NC Please

Tour Dream

More About Remasters and Collector's Items

Sound Chaser

Petitions: HOF & BG, ASAP

 


Yesshows Hub

[If you have tickets to sell (at face value--no scalping here), want to interface with other Yes fans, or make other requests regarding the shows visit the Yesshows Hub in the Reviews section of YesNet.]

Yes tickets for Birmingham Required

From:   Peter Freeman   innasfreeyes@hotmail.com
Location:  Birmingham, W Mids  England

If there is any unfortunate person out there who cannot get to the concert I would love 2 good tickets - stalls - for my American friends who are coming over for the concerts. Full price paid and I will collect.
 


Wanted

CD Store in Amsterdam

From:   Thomas Sera   tsera@wanadoo.nl
Location:  Amstelveen, Amsterdam  Netherlands

I am a Japanese die-hard Yes fan for over 30 years.

I have been working in Netherlands since this January. I am looking for z CD shop that sells Yes albums and the same type of progressive rock albums such as Iona and Trace but I can't find it in Amsterdam (I want to get the ones that I can't get in Japan because I already have all the albums sold in Japan).

Can anyone inform me the appropriate shop in Netherlands or a near country? The cheaper, the better. Thank you.
 


Online

In-Depth Trevor Rabin Interview Online

From:   Anil Prasad   aprasad@innerviews.org
Location:  San Francisco, CA  USA

An in-depth interview with film composer and ex-Yes member Trevor Rabin is now available on Innerviews. The piece looks at all facets of his career, including a lot of discussion about his years with Yes. He
also reflects on his solo albums, Rabbitt and many other topics.

You can check it out here: http://www.innerviews.org.
 


Albums

Reissues No Better

From:   Juan Sebastian   enchant7@aol.com
Location:  Los Angeles, CA  USA

I recently bought all of the rhino reissues/remasterings but can't come to the conclusion that the Rhino's are any better than the previous issues, except for the bonus tracks which are recorded more superior.

Comparing to the previous reissues such as Gastwirt, I find that Rhino's versions are nothing more than a reverbed version. I say this because, the reverberation is audible in the whole spectrum of the music: from the drums, to the guitar, to the keys, and most especially worst with Jon's vocals. This is true when a music is played through a reverb system - all parts of the music are time delayed. The fact the Jon Anderson's vocals in all the programs are reverbed is very telling of the kind of tweaking done to make it sound like some kind of mastering had been done. Jon's voice is by itself sublime and should be left untouched by any form of tweaking. It is a disgrace and insult to a great voice to be presented in a manner that defile's its beauty.

Same effect can be achieved by playing Gastwirt's version and playing it through a reverberation unit. I find myself listening to Gastwirt's version of CTTE just because Jon's voice should be heard without a time delay. GFTO is unlistenable. Jon should object to this.

90124 - Check It Out!

From:   Kent Daniel Bentkowski   kentdb741@adelphia.net
Location:  Buffalo, NY  USA

I must confess that I was a little behind in my Yes fan duties; only hearing recently about Trevor Rabin's wonderful 90124 demo CD. I just received my copy of this today, and I have to say that I am very pleased with the purchase.

I am always interested in hearing how the final versions of songs are written. Not being a musician myself, however, this process has always interested and intrigued me. More so with Trevor, this process is even more interesting, as the songs he participated in form one of the most exciting eras of any group in my library of 3,500+ compact discs.

90124 is a fascinating journey, giving deep insight into the writing and recording of many of the songs on 90125, BIG GENERATOR, Talk, and UNION.

If anyone reading these words is at all interested in either songwriting, album production, or the album 90125 in particular, please do yourself a favor and get the 90124 compact disc.

I guarantee that you will enjoy this CD immensely.
 


Performance

Concert Review - Mandelay Bay, Las Vegas 4/21/04

From:   dale nickey   NickDa251@aol.com
Location:  castaic lake, ca  usa

Another year, another Yes incarnation. One of the few bands from '60s that has all members and alumni alive and remarkably good health. Not by luck, but that elusive force Karma, because Yes music was and remains stubbornly and unfashionably positive and spiritually nourishing to performer and listener. After watching the steep decline of the "Trevor Years", Las Vegas would have been the projected sight of Yes's final death throws into parody and last gasps, the groups Chicago and Air Supply providing the template. However, Yes' twilight years have been their most heroic and fascinating. The KEYS reunion with Rick Wakeman was to be their realife firebird suite. A resurrection from the ashes of punk.

Well, the long march back to the limelight took a little longer than projected. Detours into symphonia, infirmity, reconstituted solo albums, and HOB residencies have finally culminated in the reunion of the classic Yes lineup, arena tours and "rock blocks" on classic rock radio.

Yes still refuses to play safe. Their Las Vegas show was lavish, at times, endearingly goofy, and, as always, precise and expertly played. All bases were covered. "Unplugged set", new wardrobe, Roger Dean stage set, predictable favorites, unpredictable surprises, and a set spanning most significant points in the Yes canon. I saw "Going for the One" coming a mile a way. "Every Little Thing" was a left hook to the jaw. "And You and I" somehow retains its majesty totally (sic) and "South Side of Sky" is a welcome respite from "Heart of the Sunrise".

"Ritual" was a, ahem... curious choice for a set closer. As a guitarist my self, I must say Steve Howe's closing outro to "Turn of the Century" was staggeringly beautiful and daring. If "Awaken" is becoming a little too familiar to the band they might have a go at "Homeworld" from the LADDER. Let Rick sink his teeth into that one. Am I alone in thinking that piece has been criminally neglected since the "House of Yes" tour? It was transporting when I saw it performed.

Yes has climbed the mountain tops. Been the biggest band in the world, public enemy #1 in the late 70's. Out of touch, out of funds and now have returned as a respected elder of the music business. Oh let's say and be done with it, "The Worlds Finest Progressive Group". Actually, the "Best Band in the World" period. That will do. Show me a better one. You can't.

Hello Hall of Fame???!!!! Now that the Dells are safely in, maybe you can grow some balls and pay grudging respect to 40,000,000 record buyers five consummate, committed and enlightened musicians who, by the way, happen to be FAMOUS.
 


Dialog

Wakeman Writes Intro to New Wooding Book

From:   Dan Wooding   danjuma1@aol.com
Location:  Huntington Beach, CA  USA

Rick Wakeman writes introduction to new Dan Wooding book, "From Tabloid to Truth" (To purchase a copy of the book, go to www.assistnews.net and to to the picture of the cover, and then "Click to order Dan's book"):

In the 35 years I have known Dan Wooding, there has never been one second of any day where Dan has not made full use of the talents that God gave him, although he has had his moments, especially during his "exploratory journalistic days" that perhaps may even have surprised God a little!

Dan's journey through life has been remarkable to witness. He has, I think, seen everything, (and I really mean that) and can count amongst his friends, ex-prostitutes, former drug addicts, AIDS victims, past pornographers and even members of the clergy!

Dan is a "doer". He is a rare breed. A huge percentage of the human race are either "thinkers" and never realize God's Will given to each and every one of us, or they take more than they ever give back. Dan has given his life to others and that is something very special. I always said that Dan should never have written this book as he really can't see himself as others do and therefore is not truly qualified to tell his life story as it really is, but as I have already said... .Dan is a "doer"... and so he's done it!

It's hard to sum up Dan in a few paragraphs but I have done the best I can. On a car journey from Los Angeles airport to Orange County, I once asked Mr. Wooding to name me one person he knew who had led a normal life.

He failed.

In fact we could have driven to Mexico City and he still couldn't have given me an answer.

That's just one example of why I love the man with all my heart and I know God does too. I was once asked what my definition of a Christian was and without thinking, answered... Dan Wooding.

Says it all really.

Rick Wakeman,

Rock Musician
London, England

Hoping for Acoustic Album

From:   Paul Bishop   paul.bishop@pgs.com
Location:  London, UK  UK

Could be this has already been said by others, but I for one would love Yes to bring out a collection of acoustic versions of their songs, and I'm hoping this acoustic set on the current tour might be an indicator that they are thinking this way. I love the acoustic version of "Roundabout", and have always loved the acoustic version of "Long Distance Runaround" since I heard it on a bootleg years and years ago. I think they could easily fill an album with fresh new variations of classic old songs.

What DRAMA?

From:   Raymond Carroll   yesfan2001@yahoo.com
Location:  New York, NY  USA

I have to chime in to say I agree with Gary Titone's posting in NFTE #287. I was SOOOO excited to see Yes was considering playing "Machine Messiah" for this tour. If they were going to do that song I didn't care what else they played. That would have been the high point for me.

But I was SOOOO disappointed to learn they weren't sticking with it (along with "Perpetual Change"). If Steve can play "Rhythm Of Love" or "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" then Jon can certainly sing something from DRAMA. Especially since the Rhino remaster of TORMATO revealed that it was Jon who actually started writing "Does It Really Happen?" I don't see why he couldn't sing that one live.

Oh well. Maybe next tour.

Submitted for Your Approval

From:   Dave Schlom   shindleriapraematurus@yahoo.com
Location:  Gerber, CA  USA

A long time ago in a lifetime far, far away, my high school chums and I in Southern California (ca. 1970-77) collaborated in an artistic enterprise we called "Siberian Khatru". It was composed of three of us interested in photography, water colors and the new field called "multimedia". I remember we did a slide show set to (of all things!) "The Gates of Delirium" for our high school (Cleveland High School, home of the Caveliers) Fine Arts Festival. Back then, I had visions of becoming a photographic artist inspired by the progressive rock movement: Roger Dean meets Ansel Adams if you will.

Life's changes moved out and inside me and I eventually strayed from that path but never deviated in my love of our favorite band and its music. Older and wiser (?) I went back to my roots and started back into serious photography. I'd like to share my work with other fans and you can visit my galleries at www.pbase.com/lassendave Please leave a comment if you like and let me know that you are one of the Total Mass Retain.

Turn of the Parallels

From:   Harrison Leonard   blackbird68@earthlink.net
Location:  Valencia, CA  USA

Why, when Rhino so wonderfully remastered the classic GFTO, did they cut the transition between "TOTC" and "Parallels" incorrectly? On the original album, as well as the Atlantic Remaster, there is some quiet music at the beginning of "Parallels" which I understand is Rick working the church organ pedals...this is at the END of "TOTC" on the Rhino remasters. Nice one.

[Sounds more like a vibraphone to me, but would agree that it should have been at the start of track 3 instead of at the end of track 2. --MOT]

Chronic Yessounds

From:   John Koch   jobiedee@aol.com
Location:  Kent, OH   USA

The soundboard mix seems to be a chronic problem with Yesshows the last couple of tours and it never seems to go away. The whole show is pointless if the sound is muffled, muted, or mixed poorly.

One could say that arenas aren't the best for sound, and I would have agreed with them, until November 2002 when I saw Peter Gabriel at Gund Arena in Cleveland Ohio. The sound was incredible. I was somewhat apprehensive as I thought it would probably sound crappy but no it was tremendous.

I saw Yes twice on the 2002 tour and the first time was the worst mix I had ever heard. I was at Blossom Music Center in the pavilion with two Yes newbies that I had hoped to impress but the sound made the performance so flat it didn't move them. "Awaken" should have shaken the ground but sadly to untrained ears it was just a lot of noodling. Blossom is designed for music performances so bad sound is no excuse. I thought that is what sound checks are supposed to accomplish.

Now later in the year they returned to the Akron Civic theatre. It was just my friend and I who are both Yes fans for life and it was the best mix I think I have ever heard. They shook the theatre and you could feel it in your teeth. Chris's base made my heartbeat change. What a great show. I am almost apprehensive to attend another show for fear the sound may disappoint me.

I love this band so much. They have been a major influence on my musical tastes, philosophy, and just about all the fondest times of my life are intertwined with a Yes song or Yes event. They are up there working hard for their fans but it doesn't matter how well they play if the sound is poor. They should get Eddy Offord to do the sound if he is still in the biz. Isn't that why they got him to be their producer because he did such a good job on the road for them?

The only other question I have is when are they coming back to Ohio.

Thanks to Yes and the staff from Notes From the Edge.

Yes Music for Drumlines

From:   Mark Gibson   christine.m.gibson@noaa.gov
Location:  Moss Point, MS  USA

In 1978 I was part of the drumline for the University of Southern Mississippi marching band. We began practicing an ensemble piece someone called "Ritual". When I asked if anyone knew where it came from, some of the guys said yeh, the percussion instructor for the Phantom Regiment drum corp. Uh, no, I mean do you know where it originated from? Duh expressions, of course.

So we gathered in my dorm room and I let the percussion passage from "Ritual" blast thru the stereo. It was a pleasure to watch them react to the fact that this complex drumline solo came from a "rock" drummer.
A few days later, I was playing a recording of Patrick Moraz's "I" when several of the guys said a section of it had been arranged into a drumline solo by another drum corp!

I was just wondering if anyone has other examples of this happening?

Compensation!

From:   Wendy Bridgehouse   dizilizi55@hotmail.com.au
Location:  Perth,  Australia

I have loved the music of Yes since I first heard them as a 17 year old girl living in Oldham Lancashire UK. I will never forget seeing them live in Manchester in the Summer of 1972--a magical Experience! I have always been "a lone listener" & have never known anyone to share my appreciation of the music I still love and feel is a reflection of my individuality.

35 years later and now living in Perth, West Australia on our small farm and a bit out of touch with the what is going on, I found out that Yes were currently visiting our sleepy corner of the World on their Full Circle tour! I only found out by listening to an interview with Rick Wakeman on the local radio the day after the concert. At the time I was busy mucking out the stables and almost cried with disappointment at missing out on going to the concert.

As I listened, Rick was saying that they would be leaving Perth for Singapore that afternoon. I made a crazy decision to try to catch them at the airport. I cancelled my plans of going horse riding with a dear friend (who had never heard of Yes!) who also thought I was potty but offered to come with me for a bit of moral support and to give me a push if I wimped out! So there we were, a couple of 40 something groupies, me clutching my original CLOSE TO THE EDGE LP and my friend who didn't even know who she was supposed to be looking for!

We sat by the "Departure Check in" and even I hoped I would recognise them after all these years! I needn't have worried. A bus drew up outside and I instantly recognised the long flowing locks of Rick Wakeman as he got out of the bus. I got up leaving my friend and shouted "Mr. Wakeman" (poor man must have thought I was going to arrest him or something). I asked him to autograph my tatty, well played LP and said how disappointed I was to have missed their show.

The other band members followed and my friend got the rest of them to autograph my record. I found Jon who was with his lovely wife and we found that we were both ex-pat Lacashire--I never knew he was from Acrington--instantly my nerves melted; he has that effect on you, and I put my hand on his arm and told him that he had the most beautiful voice, the words just came from my heart and he seemed really touched.

It means so much to me that I have had the chance of telling someone whose music I have enjoyed and loved for all this time, thank you. The rest of the band members were also charming and Alan White's wife was really nice to us saying that us being there meant a lot to them (I think though in all honesty they would have preferred a couple of younger chicks!).

Last week I bought the "YESSPEAK DVD so now I can watch what I missed as much as I like! Long Live YES!!!!!

TURBULENCE on Vinyl

From:   André Matos   asamatos@hotmail.com
Location:  Lisbon,  Portugal

About Steve Wightman's post in the last NFTE and for the benefit of Yesologists: Steve Howe's TURBULENCE was definitely released on vinyl LP in Portugal. Unfortunately, I only own the original CD version.

Yamaha Baby Grand Electric Organ or Piano?!

From:   James Warren   jamesjwarren@yahoo.com
Location:  Little Rock, AR  USA

I was intrigued when I heard that Rick is apparently using something like this on the current tour. Can someone please provide me with some relevant details? (model number, price range, specs, review, etc.) Didn't Yamaha already produce a REAL baby grand piano that also had some additional electronics capabilities? (Headphone output, for instance.)

Thanks for your help.

BIG GENERATOR: Not Enough Bonus Material?

From:   Graeme Stewart   graemestewart@supanet.com
Location:  Glasgow, Lanakshire  Scotland

I cannot accept the Rhino statement about not having enough bonus material for Gig Generator.

In addition to the remixes others have mentioned, I'm sitting here looking at a CD titled "ALTERNATE GENERATOR", made up of demos & alternate takes of almost the whole album!

the track list, for those who haven't seen/got this disc is:

1/Love Will find a way,
2/BIG GENERATOR
3/Rythym of Love
4/Final Eyes
5/Shoot High,Aim Low,( 2ndtake)
6/BIG GENERATOR,(2ndtake),

The version of "Shoot High" has quite a different instrumental arrangement,& very different lyrics.

Other tracks on the CD are unreleased Jon & Vangelis tracks, including an instrumental version of "Holy Lamb" & "Distant Thunder"...sound familiar?!

So, Rhino...there you are.... 7 alternate tracks from BIG GENERATOR...is THAT enough for you?

"Clap" Spoken Intro

From:   James Durst   jdurst@provide.net
Location:  Westland, MI  USA

I have to disagree with Lewis Pickett's comments about the spoken intro [in NFTE #287]. Steve Howe remembers this correctly. During their first tour of America in '71, Jon always very clearly introduced it as "The Clap". Listen to bootlegs from the July 1971 show at Yale Bowl in New Have, CT, where they opened for Grand Funk, or the Gaelic Park show in NYC the day before Yale Bowl...

A Thought to Bill Burchell (NFTE #287)

From:   Simon Gilman   sigil@tiscali.co.uk
Location:  Edmonton, London  UK

Maybe you don't like how Jon's singing those bits of "Close to the Edge" now; maybe I don't like it that Steve doesn't bend the E any more in bars 7 and 8 of "Clap". I think they're entitled, really, to remodel and keep these played-for-30yrs-plus pieces in any way that'll keep them fresh for us to enjoy live. I bet there are plenty of live takes that you prefer to studio versions. With any luck there will be plenty more for us all to look forward to.

Mind you, Rick's the worst; you never know if you're going to hear a piece of classical wizardry or free-form jazz, or just plain old laugh-a-minute vaudeville. And that's only on the intro to "Awaken".

What is That Instrument on CTTE?

From:   David Goodwin   david-g@freeuk.com
Location:  London, London  UK

Can anyone with more experience of keyboard instruments tell me what Rick is playing during the intro section? You can hear it best at the start of "Total Mass Retain (single version)" on the Rhino release. Hammond? Minimoog? I'm trying to home-record on my pc my own effort at playing this piece of music, and getting the right instrument sounds is kind of important to me! I've already searched high and low for this information, including the RWCC site. I'd be really grateful for any help offered.

"The Ancient" Debate

From:   Simon Gilman   sigil@tiscali.co.uk
Location:  Edmonton, London  UK

Back in late 1978, on the TORMATO tour, some of you may remember the band playing a medley of hits in honour of their 10th anniversary. This resurrected some stuff that hadn't been on the playlist in years, such as "Survival". And blow me down, the medley also included not only the accented octave stabs that were the principal theme of "The Ancient" (which found their way into "Ritual" when that was the only TFTO song they played, in order to marry it back to the whole album), but also the main opening D minor (ish) jam. Chris' bass was less wah-ed, and Rick's keys were more harmonically clear. As well as this, in more recent years, Steve has soloed the acoustic guitar part that framed the "Do the leaves of green stay greener" section.

So it's not as though "The Ancient" has been buried or forgotten, and I think the band should have the guts to approach the whole piece once again. The difficult section - the freeform percussive/steel guitar bit in the middle - could so easily be given a reworking to make it more listenable (I confess I still find it a bit wearying 30 years on!). After all, it's as though the definitive version of "Ritual" is now the live one, so why they can't make a fist of "The Ancient" is beyond me. Remember too, that serious critics at the time of TFTO identified this as the movement that would be studied for generations to come as an example of structure and form in popular music.

But if they do bring it back, then what about "The Remembering"? What about a concert or two of the whole of TFTO? ...and then we're into areas of why not this and why not that... how would Rick handle "Sound Chaser", or Steve "Astral Traveler", and wouldn't you just love to hear Jon singing "Into the Lens"?

Moaning Yes Fans

From:   Rob Jones   robdevonshirehouse@yahoo.co.uk
Location:  Ambleside, Cumbria  England

Like many Yes fans in the UK I am really looking forward to watching the greatest band in the world again, and each day I check the reviews of the Yes shows over in the good old USA. Although most reviews are good there seems to be fans moaning, complaining about the sound, the stage show various members of the band etc.

Stop moaning and be grateful that this great band is still going, still touring, still wowing the audiences. I personally don't care if Yes did a gig with no stage show, no lights and poor sound its just a great pleasure and joy to know that these guys are still with us. Many thanks Jon, Steve, Alan, Rick, Chris.

Now, if what Rick said is true in "YesYears", that "music won out over personalities", then I hope someone IN Yes reads this, drops the ego, and stops whining, and PLAYS THE FUCKING MUSIC.

Sorry for the rant, but this is silly, from my point of view. I love Yes; I love their music...but I'm sure there are LOTS of FANS who want to hear this stuff live. They've bought the album--Yes ought to pay those fans back by playing at least one song from each album occasionally.

Finally, "Mind Drive" live!

From:   Kent Daniel Bentkowski   kentdb741@adelphia.net
Location:  Buffalo, New York  USA

After attending the Yes show in Toronto on May 7, 2004, I was beside myself when they performed "Mind Drive" --- my absolute favorite Yes song of the past decade. This band has been a part of my life for the past 35 years, and of all the shows I have seen on all the tours, this one was one of the greats, to be sure.

The band performing this much requested song will remain among my treasured memories, which include meeting the band.

Also, special mention and kudos to the band for performing a song which I choose to call "Roundabout Chicago Blues". It was great to hear this song rearranged into a twelve-bar Chicago blues configuration. This song suffers from a bit of overexposure, as do all great classic songs, but this was wonderful to hear such a fresh take on a song I have heard hundreds, if not thousands of times over these many years, both live and on record (and most recently on CD/DVD).

While I am on the subject of songs from FRAGILE, it was also great to hear "South Side of the Sky" in a live setting.

Great job, gentlemen--as always...(from Yes fan since 1969)

Summer Tour: More NC Please

From:   Mark Reed   MREED45540@carolina.rr.com
Location:  Salisbury, NC  USA

Please, please could there be a concert near NC? I went to Greensboro, and want to take my 3 children this time!

Tour Dream

From:   Tom Blank   tmblank1@yahoo.com
Location:  Independence, KY  USA

I am a big Yes fan. From their creative music composition to the spiritual/love/peace themes I have enjoyed them from the beginning. This tour (USA) has been difficult for me & many people from my region to attend a concert.

In years past I could catch them if not in the nearest city somewhere pretty close. I live in northern Kentucky just outside of Cincinnati, Ohio. Driving by car I live 20 minutes from Cincinnati, 2 hours from Indianapolis, Indiana, 1.5 hours from Dayton, Ohio, 1.5 hours from Columbus, Ohio, 2 hours from Louisville, Kentucky, 1.3 hours from Lexington, Kentucky, and 4.5 hours from Cleveland, Ohio. As you can see there are many cities included in a small geographical area yet none of these cities are included on the tour. In 1984 for example, Yes was in the Cincinnati area 3 times. The closest now was a 6 hr. drive to Illinois and a 6 hr. drive to Michigan. With 4 small children I cant just up and go to see a show.

I know if there was any way possible for a show to be scheduled somewhere in this region it would do very well. I know there is not much power in one voice but if I didn't send this there would be no chance at all. knowing also that the band has been around for 35 years, for all anybody knows this could be the last time they are together. especially the 5 they are now The most talented Yes. 

More About Remasters and Collector's Items

From:   John White   anthrak@yahoo.com
Location:  San Francisco, CA  USA

There were some great comments brought up about the new set of Rhino remasters in last month's Notes From the Edge--especially about the fade in at the beginning of "Your Song" from 90125 and the end keyboard fade in on "Does It Really Happen?" from DRAMA.

I have all of the Japanese HDCD reissues up to BIG GENERATOR and when I checked for both fade ins on the Japanese remasters for both of the songs mentioned above, they were both there. I also checked the Joe Gastwirt remastered version of DRAMA and the keyboard fade in was there for "Does It Really Happen?" If Rhino used the original masters as stated, does anyone have information on what masters were used for the Japanese HDCD remasters as well what tapes Joe Gastwirt used to remaster DRAMA? I just find it puzzling that ONLY these Rhino remasters do not have these fade ins yet the album, cassette and all other versions of DRAMA and 90125 before the Rhino remasters have the fade ins. Not only that but wouldn't it have made more sense to put the bonus track called "Everybody's Song" (the Anderson demo of "Does It Really Happen?") as part of the bonus stuff on the DRAMA CD and take a song or two of the Paris sessions to put on TORMATO?

As a side note, I have two copies of CLOSE TO THE EDGE and one of them leaves out a drum fill on "Siberian Khatru" (the one Bill plays right before Rick's harpsichord part)...I don't know why. Oh well, I guess you can't have everything...it's just that us Yes fans get picky with the music we love so much.

It was also brought up in last month's Notes that if you have the versions of the CDs with the fade ins, you have collectors items. Well I am saving my copies of DRAMA and RELAYER from the second set of remasters because I think they are collector items anyway. Why? Well, the DRAMA Cd has a picture of the Yes and DRAMA Logos as well as the panthers and birds on cd itself. No other version of DRAMA that I know has this. With RELAYER, it looks like the Gottlieb brothers got a hold of some different artwork done during the RELAYER period, such as a prototype drawing of the cliffs on the finished RELAYER cover and a picture of a fly (or bee) that had a helix shaped conch shell type body. The CD has a completely different design on it instead of the original record--it has a Roger Dean pattern that is also used in the background of the booklet and on the back cover of the CD tray. I think that these drawings mentioned previously would've made the Rhino RELAYER booklet even more interesting, giving more of an insight as to how the cover art came about and evolved into the final result.

Anyway,I will just hold on to this copy of RELAYER (the one remastered by George Marino) because this artwork that doesn't appear in any of the other versions of the RELAYER album before or since that I know of. Those of you with the second generation remasters who have the DRAMA and RELAYER CDs might want to do the same and hold onto them.

About those wanting a remaster of BIG GENERATOR: BIG GENERATOR HAS been remastered in HDCD format in Japan. Yes, I know it's more expensive and more difficult to obtain but it IS an improvement as far as sound quality goes. I was REALLY puzzled to find out that Rhino did not want to remaster BIG GENERATOR due to a lack of bonus material. Heck, besides all of the BG remixes mentioned in last month's Notes, they could still have added the cassette only 12 INCHES ON TAPE of all the 90125 remixes. I was flabbergasted that they didn't do this on 90125 and instead included stuff off of the "YesYears" box set that a lot of fans have. It also would've been nice to have a CD version of 12 INCHES ON TAPE as it is hard to find. Another thing (if the rights could've been obtained) would be to include the ORIGINAL demo of "Owner" off of Trevor Rabin's recent release 90124. I found this demo totally fascinating and it would've made a great addition to Rhino's version of 90125 because you can see how the song changed and evolved to the version on the record. For those who are still curious about the demo, I recommend getting 90124, it's an interesting listen.

I'm glad that Rhino has reissued these CDs...it seems like the major music mags are a lot more sympathetic (even if they are sarcastic) to Yes' music as a result of these remasters than they were in the '70s. Even though lack of fade ins as mentioned previously is a jolt, on the plus side the extra added material of calming waves on the intro to "Revealing Science of God" on the TFTO remaster has me listening to the Rhino more than the Japanese version. You win some, you lose some. :)

And thanks to Yes for another wonderful tour with great music and most of all for taking the time to do in store appearances for your fans. I was ecstatic when Yes appeared in Toronto, to get Jon's signature to complete all members' signatures on my favorite record of all time CLOSE TO THE EDGE. It's going to be framed and up on my wall for all to see! Steve even wrote "Cheap sleeve!" on the TORMATO cover that I had!

Thanks for showing your fans that they matter and I look forward to seeing you for a fourth time later this summer.

Sound Chaser

Petitions: HOF & BG, ASAP

Notes From the Editor Mike Tiano

You may have noticed the banner on the NFTE home page for this issue touting the two petitions we now have in progress. If you're in agreement with what these petitions are attempting to achieve then we encourage you to sign one or both before June 15.

The first is a concerted effort to help get Yes nominated, and ultimately inducted, into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. At the HOF site, the following describes induction for performers:

"Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artist's contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll."

Yes has been around longer than 25 years, so that requirement is met. The issue then is with the criteria. Obviously the determination of what is significant and influential (as well as how contributions develop and perpetuate rock and roll) is largely subjective, if not a bit fuzzy. Exactly what is the "development and perpetuation of rock and roll", anyway--and what has Yes not done to contribute here?

It's baffling that anyone can disregard Yes' impact on rock music, rock musicians, and even popular culture (by that last item I'm referring to items such as Yes artwork t-shirt worn by popular artists, the use of their songs to advertise major films, etc.). One would assume that it can't be ignored that the Yes tribute issue of Billboard--considered THE music industry data source--was not only their largest selling issue in 2003, but that its sellout resulted in an unprecedented reprint, which they had never done before.

It's discouraging that the HOF "rock experts" (as they are termed on the HOF site) seem to dispell prog rock in general--outside of Pink Floyd, we've yet to see any major prog band be nominated, let alone inducted. The HOF site features a "Timeline" that includes progressive rock, so they at least acknowledge it. However only HOF inducted bands are included, and they are Floyd, Frank Zappa, and the Who (!): Floyd were huge (and therefore hard to ignore), Zappa was an icon, and the Who--well, the Who may have influenced the prog contingent (i.e., TOMMY and QUADROPHENIA, Enwistle's melodic bass playing) but they really don't belong in this category. Seems that the HOF is muddying the water here.

But we're hoping that the HOF "experts" can be persuaded to rethink Yes' contributions, hence the petition. A sizeable turnout is needed to make any kind of impact, so please spread the word that this petition is in progress. We will attempt to get it to the influential parties and include a fact sheet of notable Yes facts including what was listed above.

The second petition is an attempt to convince Rhino management that there is indeed enough material for a remastered and expanded BIG GENERATOR. As Graeme Stewart noted in his post above there are alternate takes available. Signing this petition may demonstrate that there is indeed wide-spread interest in a re-release of BG that is given the same treatment as the other remasters (which, BTW, would make an even dozen).

Please check out these petitions and if you agree with them then sign them right away. Thanks.

MOT

 


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